Found on the Web: Reports of Forced Nudity - Archive 3 - Part
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Found on the Web: Reports of Forced
Nudity – Archive 3
Part 1
Compiled by Editor_N
Introduction
Context: this introduction is dated June 2024. This is a continuation
of the "Found on the Web - Reports of Forced Nudity" series, previously
published on the FNA archive. It is a compilation of reports
of nude swimming and/or forced nudity, primarily in the past.
This archive contains material mostly from a few select voy.com forums
(posts from 2019 to 2023), supplemented by a few other
sources. The vast majority of the material herein is no
longer available on the web (and most of it is not available via
archive.org). The material here has – in most cases - been
filtered to include mostly (but not exclusively) 1st person accounts of
nude swimming and/or forced nudity, and also edited to remove most
names. (Some names are replaced by XXXX or similar.)
Constraint: Source Forums are polluted with fantasist nonsense
The source forums on voy.com were heavily polluted with fictitious
posts by an obvious fantasist/fetishist who frequently posted under
multiple, different names and whose posts can usually be identified by:
their hyperbolic writing style (lots of sentences ending in !- if a
short post, *every* sentence might end with !),
tone/focus: juvenile glee when pretending to be a girl who witnessed
boys swimming nude, and intense embarrassment when pretending to be a
boy who swam nude in front of girls, and
certain content/phrases used frequently: the girls can see
all that we have, all that makes us male, they know all our secrets,
they can see everything; and analogous statements when pretending to be
a girl who witnessed boys swimming nude.
Editing old posts to add fantasist nonsense? Some posts from
the source sites are predominantly in a writing style very different
from the fantasist (as described above), but also contain a few
sentences or paragraphs that are very much in the fantasist
style. Hypothesis: These may be old posts (possibly from the
long-ago topix.com forum days?), originally written by someone other
than the fantasist, but revised and reposted by the fantasist to
include nonsense. I excluded most posts like this, but did
include a few when they were in the grey zone/had only very limited
fantasist nonsense.
Fantasist posts are mostly excluded here, but a few are included (and
identified as fantasist) when they produce replies that do not appear
to be fantasist nonsense, or when there are other reasons to include
the material.
In editing the material, I deleted/excluded a very large volume of
fantasist material. The fantasist is prolific and has been
posting garbage for many years and so some fantasist material might get
through the screening process; keep this in mind when reading.
Allegedly true stories
The compilation here is in the order the posts were saved and hence not
well-organized. The material here is allegedly true. As per
previous practice, it is up to you re: how much of the material that
you believe. I will not participate in useless I believe/I
don’t believe debates regarding this material; again, form
your own opinions on this point.
FORMAT details for the posts:
Individual posts are separated by a short line of 5 asterisks: *****
Gender of the posters is specified as MN, FN,or UN: MN = male
name, FN=female name, UN=name unknown or uncertain gender name. Date
(often just the year) when the post was made, is supplied for most
posts (when available).
Related posts/replies to posts by same poster, are separated by dashes:
-----.
Some comments by Editor_N are identified:
<Comment: _comment_goes_here >;
most other comments appear on same line as MN/FN/UN.
The main sources for this archive – the voy.com online forums
– were deleted off the web earlier in 2024. As the sources
have disappeared, this series is likely the last compilation I will
produce, unless someone starts up a new forum similar to the voy.com
forums. Advice to anyone who starts a new forum: use a host
that won't arbitrarily delete your forum. Also, moderate your
forum to exclude obvious fantasist material, and also exclude a certain
notorious long-time nudity forum spammer who will churn your board with
redundant, uninformative posts. This will result in a forum with fewer
postings, but the quality will be higher.
Finally, if anyone reading this has saved an archive of similar posts,
I invite and encourage you to edit the material and share it online,
preferably via the FNA website (check with Cassie on this
point). But: please don't ask me to do the work of editing
your archive - as someone did years ago during the original series for
"Found on the Web" (in that case, the requester had a large archive
related to spanking, a subject of zero interest to me).
I hope that you find at least some of the material herein, of interest.
Supplementary comments for the introduction section:
Given that the last sources for nude swim/forced nudity reports are no
longer online, some readers will wonder why I describe the fantasist
writing style and highlight some posts by the fantasist. The
reason is that it is possible that someone will start a new forum that
takes the place of the deleted voy.com forums, and the fantasist will
likely (try to) post on that venue as well. Also, stories that are not
in the full fantasist style, may have some elements that are credible
(assuming they are revisions of old posts by someone else).
Previous series vs. this new series of posts. This set of posts is a
new archive/series/volume. In the first "Found on the Web" series,
posts re: nude swimming in high school were the most common posts, with
only a very few posts re: junior high swim teams.
In this new series, posts re: nude swimming by junior high boys swim
teams are the most common. It is interesting that multiple
posters report that their senior high varsity swim teams wore suits at
meets (even if they practiced nude), but the junior high and junior
varsity boys swim teams were *always nude* for all practices and all
swim meets. (So 7th-9th graders were routinely displayed nude at public
swim meets, while 10th graders and up wore skimpy speedo suits.) This
archive also includes many posts re: boys swimming nude in grades 4, 5,
and 6 (pre-junior high), very often with clothed same-age girls
swimming with them and/or watching from bleachers at the Y.
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MN; Date Posted: 02/25/21
<Comment: the post below is re: nude swimming in Sheboygan,
Wisconsin. Newspaper reports from the era confirm that boys
there swam nude. Some very small portions of the post below are
consistent with the fantasist writing style, indicating possible
(minor) embellishment by the voy.com serial fantasist.>
In 1957 I took swimming lessons at Central High School in Sheboygan,
Wisconsin on Saturday mornings. The students there were from 7th grade
to 9th grade. Girls were provided one piece suits while boys were made
to swim nude.
Girls swam from around 8:00 AM to around 9:30 AM and boy's swam from
10:00 AM until 11:30 AM. The girls would sometimes linger around after
swimming and had to be asked to leave the pool before we could enter
but that caused a bottleneck in the changing room where showers were
mandatory.
A few girls figured that if they lingered around enough they would get
to see us nude boy's as we entered and exited the shower. Furthermore
they used the excuse of waiting for their mothers to sit poolside and
watch us totally nude as we swam.
Many of us boy's were bothered by this and complained but nothing was
done to remove the girls in a timely manner. This lollygagging caught
on allowing many girls to wait for their ride standing poolside
observing us totally in the nude. Some girls were sisters of the boy
swimmers and stayed the entire session. Many boy's, like me, were
uncomfortable with this and would erect allowing the girls to see us in
our aroused state.
Eventually something had to be done as boy's began quitting and boy's
attendance fell dramatically. A room was made available for the girls
to wait in but the girls still lingered in the locker room to see the
nude boy's shower off!
It became a penis show as boy's began to show off shaking their
erections at the girls and fooling around became common.
For us shy boy's it was still an issue having girls in our locker room
causing humiliation and embarrassment resulting in erections! I was not
as comfortable as those boys who showed off and felt shame and
humiliation having girls look at me totally nude.
When I was in 11th grade a rumor spread that the girls were shued out
of the locker room before the boy's could enter and that was supposed
to take care of the embarrassing situation in the locker room.
Unfortunately a few girls scraped paint off of 2 windows in the pool
area and it was rumored that they would look in as the boy's swam nude.
Nothing was done until 1973 when the nude swimming rule was overturned
and boys were made to wear suits when they swam!
*****MN; 02/25/21
We started taking swim classes in 5th and 6th grade in 1958 at the
local HS which had a pool once a week. They were mixed classes in those
grades with boys nude and girls in swimsuits.
Our girl classmates were always excited to see us boys all naked. It
was embarrassing and humiliating with our penises and bare butts being
on display in front of the girls. When we asked our teachers why we had
to be naked they said that those were the rules even for older boys at
the school.
From 7th grade in Junior High we had separate swim classes for boys and
girls although we still had to be naked. There were rumors that girls
were spying on us but we never found out. If they did it was kept a
secret between them.
*****
MN; date not recorded
Speaking of the Historyworld site, I wonder if this story is true.
I hope it is.
"I am a 14 year-old boy and I attend middle school in a rural area. Our
school is small and there is only one changing room and shower for PE
which means that the boys and girls have to share the same facility. It
was embarrassing at first to have girls see me naked but I got used to
it after awhile and it doesn’t bother me so much now. The
boys and girls are ages 12 to 15 and we all change into our gym uniform
in the same changing room. I take off my school shirt and pants and the
girls can all see me in my tighty-whitey fly-front briefs. I see them
in their bra and panties. We all have PE together and then we come back
to the changing room and I strip naked to shower and the girls all see
me naked. The shower room is right off the changing room and the boys
and girls shower together. Yes, the boys all get boners but it is a
natural thing for a boy and it is fun. I usually shower with a girl
named Kim, and we get under the same shower head together and sometimes
she washes me and I wash her."
*****
FN; from quora.com; 2021
I graduated high school in 1972 in a city in California, and nudity was
considered a part of everyday life back then. The school I attended was
relaxed by the late 60s regarding nudity. The boys swam naked and the
girls wore swimsuits until the mid 60s. I'm not sure what led to the
girls swimming nude with the boys, but by the time I became a freshman
all of the girls in my class were doing it. It seemed like girls could
do it if they wanted to. It wasn't something that we had to do.
However, if a girl didn't swim nude with the boys she was teased and
called names. So all of us stripped in gym class.
In 1967 the Summer of Love event happened in Golden Gate Park and
nudity was everywhere. I remember seeing several naked women and a few
naked men in 1968. Haight-Ashbury was another area where nudity was
common. You could get on a bus and go to Haight-Ashbury completely
naked and no one cared. I know I happened to be one of the girls who
did it. There were shops at Haight-Ashbury that gave away clothes,
furniture, food, and other stuff and it was all free. I saw several
naked people walk in and pick out clothes and leave the store naked
back to their commune or hippy house.
Tour buses used to tour Haight-Ashbury and there were times the tour
guide would say something like “it is commonplace to see
naked men and women in this area, if you do not wish to see them,
please look away"
I remember times when the streets became clogged with naked dancers and
hippies and the motorists would honk their horns. The police were
called a few times to clear the streets. They really didnt care about
the naked people unlike today.
So nudity was something a LOT of people participated in back in the 60s
and 70s. Gym class wasn't the only time and place in which both sexes
got naked in front of each other.
*****
MN; 2021
All thru Jr high and high school we swam and competed naked with a full
audience of moms sisters and girls we knew. We didn't mind that they
all saw us naked, we were used to being naked and we're proud to be on
the team and swim naked. It was exciting for us to let them see us swim
naked. There was no embarrassment or shame on our part. We enjoyed
swimming naked.
******
FN; 2021
<Comment: definitely a fantasist post; note
the writing style and tone. Included to help others identify
fantasist material.>
I swam on a team with nude boys and there were issues about that on the
team. It was the first year they included girls on the team and many of
the boys were uncomfortable with us being there dressed in suits.
The boy's nudity was very obvious and at the first practice it had to
be very humiliating fot them. We saw everything that made them males
including full erections. Many have said that erections never happened
but I beg to differ.
It was only natural for the boys to embarrass/erect being they were
totally nude and exposed to our curious eyes. As natural as it was for
us to look it was also natural for them to feel shame and humiliation!
We could look all we wanted and enjoy seeing their private parts and
believe you me, I looked! I could tell the boys knew I was looking.
They were nervous and obviously uncomfortable.
I saw boys in many different phases of erecting but the one thing that
was certain was that there were erections!
Being 9 at the time I was very curious about the boys bodies. Getting
to freely stare at all they had was a wonderful experience. We all knew
exactly what boys our age looked like nude!
Keeping that in mind, the boys too were effected by the situation.
Having their penises fully exposed did have a noticable effect on them
all, and understandibly so!
Having to share all those secrets like that had to have been quite
embarrassing for them. To top thing off we were ALLOWED to look as
there was no way to insure we didn't!
Of course there were boys who didn't fully erect but they were in the
minority. Most were too embarrassed to remain calm and collected at
such a young age! It was understandable that the combination of nudity,
fear and knowing we were looking all contributed to their erections!
The very next year our school board mandated that boys wear suits due
to the "embarrassment displayed" at meets and practices. It was not the
same having their penises covered up. But the memories remained and
were never forgotten!
*****
MN; 2021
I too was in a swimming class while in Junior High (Middle School).
There were boys from 6 to 12 years old. There was no swimming but we
were required to shower before and after the class (YMCA rules).
There were mothers who would accompany their sons into the locker room
to help them change and be sure they showered. Many sisters would
accompany their moms and stand seeing nude boy's both younger and older
than they were. I remember having a girl about my age standing right
beside me as I dressed out or changed out of my trunks. There was
little I could do when changing as the girl's mother allowed her to
look us over!
I'm sure the girls mom's brought their daughters into the locker room
to see all the boys totally nude
*****
MN: 2021
XXXXX, what was the name of that community? I lived in a place called
Union, Il. that was incorporated into Chicago back in the 80's. I took
swimming lessons with Coach Fielder with boy's swimming nude and girls
dressed in suits. We swam at the Draiper's Motel indoor pool. There
were seats for the mother's and sisters to watch and maybe 8 to 10 kids
attended, mostly boys.
Just wondering if this was the same class you took? Probably not the
exact same one but was the location the same? Just wondering!
*****
MN; 2021
you have comfirmed my experiences exactly. I was a swimmer during the
late 50s as well. Yes we did swim nude and the girls wore one piece
black suits and caps. I started at the age of around 8 or so and
continued through high school so about 17. You did get used to being on
display. I was very one sided for sure but we didnt question it. It was
expected. Erections did happen. Nobody said anything openly at the
time, but it was frowned upon and you could tell the girls were talking
about us.
I remember sitting on the bleachers nude waiting for my event to take
place and women and girls were sitting up next to us within just, in
some cases, just inches away. You were in full view so a leg cross or
carefully placed hand was all we had for minimal cover if needed. Most
of the women in the bleachers knew we were very vulnerable and
interject if one of the younger girls would seemed to be getting to
close. It really wasnt much of a rescue though because they would
squeeze in between us so they were pressing up against us as they
started chatting. Some meets were very intense for us for sure.
***** Post 1 of 3 related
MN; 2021
XXXX you mentioned the enjoyment you had knowing what the 9 [nude] boys
on your [swim] team looked like in intimate detail. I'm sure they didnt
feel the same knowing the whole school knew how they looked. Its
amazing no one ever seemed to quit. I know I didn't have to be on the
swimming team. I kept going year after year knowing that we were on
display for the coach, girls on the team, teachers in school, parents
and their daughters and friends. I loved awimming and the feel of
hitting the water, but the embarrassment after when you climbed out of
the pool knowing everyone was looking was such an intense feeling its
very hard to describe. Climbing out of the water with an erection
growing and then having to walk around the pool in front of the
bleachers was something I don't think I ever really got used to. The
ladies i'm sure were very entertained at times.
It didnt seem to bother me as much having older women seeeing me
exposed like that, but the younger girls made me blush many times. I'm
talking about 11-13 girls especially when I was getting older starting
around 15 and up. They were so direct about everything almost like you.
They didn't bother to hide their purient interest in us. They would
always just boldly stare as we stood around waiting for an event to
start. I guess cause their parents were there, they knew they had
complete permission to stare and enjoy their advantage. Some even went
further at times which was really difficult to deal with. Getting felt
up in the bleachers or as we would walk out of the pool area wasn't
common but it did happen. It was always a younger curious girl. You
couldnt say anything about it because their parent was right there
talking to you about the meet while you felt curious fingers touching
and arousing you. The coach of course and the girls on the team would
touch us sometimes at practices. Most of the time it was just a playful
brushing, a light pat on the butt, or quick tug in a teasing way but it
wasnt as public as being felt up in public by a young curious little
girl.
***** Post 2 of 3 related
FN; 2020
you mentioned a girl in the audience who touched your penis. Did that
happen often? How old was the girl in question? Did her parents see
what she was doing to you? haven't they said anything to him? Did she
say anything to you while she was touching you? Did she look you in the
eye, and smile, or tease of any kind? How did it affect you, did you
get an erection after that? how did she do it; was it just touching, or
did she clearly take your penis in her hands? Tell us more please,
about this context and this fact. It is so revealing of the double
standard!
***** Post 3 of 3 related
MN: 2021, reply to post 1
it didnt happened too often but it would especially when the pool area
was really crowded. Usually as we were walking out to the lockerroom
area in the hallway people would be pressed together. I would feel
something and try to look at who touched my penis but they would act
casual like it was accidental but it would happen several times so I
knew it wasn't. I would be talking to a mom or older lady and feel it.
Just a light finger running over my butt or up my inner thigh. It
typically happened as everyone was pressed close as we were moving and
I couldnt really tell who it was. It always was a younger girl walking
close I could tell they were trying to cop a feel because they thought
no one would know. It would happen to a lot of the boys. When we
finally got to the lockerroom eveyone was quiet and didn't say much. A
lot of boys would have erections and try to cover them up as they came
through the doorway. You knew what had happened to them was the same as
me.
In the bleachers it might happen if it was a crowded night. It could be
very crowded too sometimes and everyone pressed together. A lot of the
moms would chat with you and put their hand on your arm or thigh as
they spoke in just a familiar gesture. The younger girls would notice
that and pretty soon one of them would get your attention to ask a
question by putting their hand on your thigh too. They would just leave
their hand there as the mom would say something. Trying to talk to a
mom feeling the young girl next to you with her hand on your thigh was
very distracting for sure. One night one of the girls started touching
my penis as i was talking to her mom. I stopped talking and turned red.
Her mom looked down in my lap and saw my erection was throbbing and her
daughter touching it. Her mom finally said, oh honey Melanie is just
curious. Dont worry she said and kept talking. I tried to keep holding
the conversation but was very uncomfortable. This mom basically gave
this little girl the freedom and permission to feel my cock as much as
she wanted. I couldnt just stand up and leave without everyone seeing
my swollen member. So embarrassing. Luckily, the meet was almost over
and my events were done so I didn't have to climb out the bleachers to
swim with an erection. Everyone just filed out slowly so I could make
my way out to the hall without it being too noticeable.
*****
MN; date not recorded
When I was 16 I went with my neighbor to swim at the YMCA. He mom and
two sisters drove is to the Y then they went to buy groceries. I knew I
only had to bring a towel and so I was prepared to swim naked with
other boys. That didn't bother me I was used to the gang showers that
we took after high school PE class.
What I wan't prepared for was the end of the swim. About 10 minutes
before our swim time ended mothers and girls walked in and sat down to
watch and wait for their sons to finish swimming. One girl was a girl I
knew from church and I was embarrassed to have her see me naked when I
got out of the pool to practice starting dives. When I walked by she
said hi to me and smiled. A little later my friend's mother and two
sisters walked in. His oldest sister who was close to my age look at me
standing there and smiled also. By time the swim period ended there
were probably 5 or 6 mothers and 8 or 9 girls, probably sisters
watching. I was embarrassing to have walk by them naked on the way to
the dressing room.
I went the whole week with my neighbor and had to swallow my pride and
let girls I knew see me naked. Sunday at church two girls who had seen
me smiled and told me how much they enjoyed "seeing" me swim with the
other boys. It was embarrassing but at the same time a touch exciting
to know they had seen me naked.
*****
MN; date not recorded
Same at our YMCA when we took lessons in junior classes up to age 13.
Some moms and older sisters would come early to pick up the boys and
would just sit and watch while we swam nude.
Some would bring along a younger sister with them.
It was a little embarrassing for us boys having the girls see us all
naked.
But this was only in the junior classes as I mentioned, during boys
swims over 13 females were not allowed in the pool.
It was the same during swim meets, the junior teams up to 12 or 13
years old always competed in the nude in front of mixed spectators.
Boys teams over 13 wore brief speedos.
*****
MN; date not recorded
My first ever blog on this very topic.
Yes, my Mom and sister watched me [swim nude] regularly, so did my Aunt
and her oldest daughter Annie. Even my next door neighbor did at the
invitation of my mother.
*****
MN: date not recorded
About swim meets in front of female spectators the junior boys teams up
to 12 or 13 always competed in the nude.
Teams after that age wore brief type speedos.
As another poster mentioned this was not for the boys modesty but so as
not to offend the female spectators' sensibilities.
In fact if the spectators were all male the older boys also took part
in the nude.
I guess the difference was that they saw young boys being nude as cute
and inoffensive in front of females, but older teen boys would have
been seen as gross and improper in front of females.
None the less the girls same age or younger, or a bit older than the
young boys saw it as exciting watching all those nude boys.
I was not on the swim teams but attended several meets as a spectator
and could notice the young girls excitement at seeing so much boy
nudity.
Rude comments were of course not allowed in front of the adult
spectators and the girls would just whisper in each others ears, so it
just went unnoticed.
***** Multiple related posts, separated by -----
MN; date not recorded
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Title: swam at Y and excelled so much I got invited to swim at local
junior college at 13 or so.
I knew where it was so just showed up on bike few miles away for
orientation. When we got there it was like 6 boys and 3 girls
attending. I was expecting something more formal but was just two
females running the class.
One oriented the girls and other oriented the boys. They said upfront
the boys can practice nude but will need to get use to wearing a team
suit next year. The required a shower with some and to always pee even
if not needed.
They said first day was just time trials for a baseline. They said to
get ready and come back showered in 10 minutes. To our surprise one of
the lifeguard instructors went into the boys room and showered with us
in a one piece suit. she and other would do this all the time.
They would even have us gather around nude during two hour class.
Erections happened everyday and seemed normal.
it actually was helpful in life
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Thank you for interest. I am not going through all those questions but
can try to provide more detail from the past. The class had genuinely
good people and I wish I knew more like them today.
I was invited to join class as I was interested, nearby, and had some
natural ability. I could have past for 15 as I was bigger kid as well.
There was no such thing as div 1 year round crazies like today.
The class was group of 9 kids, both girls and boys. We did have an
orientation and physical by a nse, requiring parent signature. All of
this was done on first week I believe and just a formality.
I do recall routine physicals but not much in this case, or might not
have cared much.
The orientation did include hygeine for a full shower and urinating
before each swim. The showers and urinals were in a divided open room.
One instructor did enter the boys room. She was maybe 20 to 25 and very
athletic dirty blonde female about 5"10.
I swam nude at boys club so it was not a change for me. Hygeine was
explained that it is best to pee and then shower. She also said not to
worry about erections if they happen. I got them most days.
Class was 4 days a week but everyday was not mandatory. I generally
made them all as there was little else to do back then.
Class had weekly timings and some class discussions. There were two
girls wearing one piece suits like the instructors.
It was odd by today's standard but normal then.
we did have meets. They were still nude but some boys on other teams
did wear Speedos.
I did not feel embarrassed past the first day. It was a long time ago
and boys swam nude at beaches and lakes often. The girls might have at
first but got over it.
The time was blocked for our class. It was quiet there most of the
time. The classes had a couple elderly women that would wait to swim
after us. They were pleasant and liked us. One of the boys mom's would
also wait sometimes.
I did that program for two years. I would just bike there in cut off
jeans, t-shirt and Keds. I even got there early sometimes when college
kids were there. They never talked to me much or had any interest. I
guess that is normal.
Boys swam nude at practice always. instructors would always ask us if
everything was ok and if we ever wanted to talk about anything. They
did seem sincere. At that age we were more nurtured still too. They
even have me some T-shirts in the list and found pile as I was a poor
kid.
Nothing overtly sexual happened ever. One time they told us to do a
testicle exam when in shower. I also would get erections lasting
awhile. It was encouraged and said we could more often if we wanted.
During the end of classes the mom I mentioned would talk to us breifly.
A few times the class of 11 or 12 would only have 4 or so. On those
days we would take more
. The instructor would sometimes wear a beach bikini too. She had
pointy nipples and a trimmed bush and not self conscious.
The meets were always on Saturdays. Both of the instructors would drive
us. Basically then all boys could compete in different events. They
would track team best times. Events were at a few places and less than
hour away.
Our team would swim nude always. I would always get excited before a
race and stay hard for a long time. I do not recall much about the
girls competing and there were never more than 20 people watching in
the stands.
During this time the instructors would talk to us one at a time. They
wanted us to be more aggressive. My hard on would brush against
instructor.
Only one of the girls would show much interest in boys. She would find
excuses to chat after races. I was completely ok with nudity other boys
were shy.
It would be unfair today but the few girls on the team would not always
get to compete. They would bring towels and encourage us. Maybe they
were relieved they got excused but they were enthusiastic and
encouraged us.If we won they would introduce us to their moms.
We only went to 5 different locations with a few a long drive away. The
only time the second instructor would go into the change room were at
meets or if they had something to discuss. I did get to see a few girls
butts quickly changing but that was it.
A few funny things did happen. Both instructors would tell me as a
foster kid that I should get married right away so I have a family of
my own. They would bring me second hand tshirts and a few shorts. I did
not wear underwear or socks in the summer much.
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When I was at the Y initially it was all boys but when I swam at a
local junior college by invite program from 12 to 15 it was coed, so I
do not find it that surprising. The girls saw a lot of boys at practice
and at swim meets. However we always used separate locker rooms except
when at a swim meet and girls would arrive in swimsuits. Boys were
allowed to wear swim briefs but none did. We were all fit and confident.
The new practice was not like the Y where moms would bring other
children as if it was a daycare. At college it was only spectators and
swimmers. A few of the spectators were mom and daughters.
Instructor would sometimes hold tip of penis to get your attention and
swat butts but not too hard. I would sort of get hard around her as
that was new to me.
It seems common that boys were embarrassed. Well if you do this since a
kid and enjoy swimming it was no big deal in many ways. The instructor
did not shame us. Infact she said she liked to see them as they meant
we were healthy.
Sometimes if we practiced relays she would tickle tip to let you know
we were up next. One other girl did it too but she was shamed a bit for
it which was sad.
I do not recall any boy quitting or being upset. I think we always
placed in top half or top quarter at meets, and this was unheard of
with female coaches, not be crude.
Showers were same way sometimes and other times all business.
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I was checked on that I was attending. Several boys quit as it was too
hard to do real training. I remembering practicing sore a pushing
through it.
The classes were 6 boys at most and two girls and two coaches. All the
girls had seen plenty of boys as well as the coaches. One of the drills
was a team relay to create an even match. So one was in pool, one was
on deck and one was waiting. When we were waiting is when she would
touch boys. If we got erection she would put hand on back of neck till
time. That did not happen during meets.
Yes suits were allowed but not worn. You stayed moderately warm from
swimming. We were probably the most professional team as we swam no
nonsense and just left when done.
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MN; date not recorded; the below refers to grades 7-12:
boy, that brought memoies. I remember the girls in our team, as well as
girls from our class that were spectators at the meets, were always
encouraging us. I loved it when they would introduce us to their moms.
in the locker room before the meet, after the;girls had changed into
their suits and after us boys were naked, many times we had a huddle
and review things and given instructions by our coaches, both male and
female. some of us standing, some of us sitting, boys on one side,
girls on the other and able to look at us. sometimes, the girls would
be between us and next to us. we didn't mean to, but sometimes
erections happened. a couple of the boys turned red of embarrassment so
the coaches said not to worry about erections. by this time, coach knew
we didn't mean to get erections. I remember also being instructed to
pee before we shower and before we head out to the pool. I remember
sometimes I had to pee a few times during the meet. it was kind of
cold, especially being wet and out of the pool.
I thought it was wonderful when the girls would introduce us to their
moms, but especially after we placed and we were wearing our medals.
sometimes, even my teachers came to the meets to see us swim and
compete. then the following week, our teachers and classmates continued
to encourage us and tell us they enjoyed the meet. I know my mom and
dad, brother and sisters were proud of me.
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MN: 2021
Female coaches were not uncommon in the junior teams, age 11 to 13. We
had such a coach in our junior team who was about 22 and a competent
swimmer. Since she also coached the girls junior team together at the
same time it was fitting that it be a woman rather than a male coach.
We were only young boys anyway and most of us were used to swimming
naked at school, at the Y and at camp, so it was not such a big deal
for us. At first it was a bit embarrassing being naked in front of the
girls our age who always wore suits but we soon got used to it.
At that age being mostly hairless and smooth and with immature penises
it was not such a big deal getting erections anyway, although some were
more prominent than others. So she never commented about our erections.
The girls would sometimes giggle if a boy got a prominent erection. She
would only swat a boy if he flaunted or touched his erection or other
gestures in front of the girls.
We also competed naked at swim meets in front of spectators, but
shrinkage was probably more common in the cold atmosphere of the pool
than erections which were relatively rare.
There is no doubt that the girls among the spectators who were not used
to seeing so many nude boys were excited and enjoyed our nudity.
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MN; date not recorded
I was naked in front of spectators from age 10 to 14. while in
elementary ages 10-12, and in junior high ages 12-14. but I was also in
the high school swim team ages 14-18.
It was true also that sometimes the swimsuits were so short and thin
that they would not protect much from the view.
It wqs the same for us at school at that time, we might have a required
swimsuit with same blue color and same shape, with very short sides and
being tight frontally and by back. "
when in high school, we were required to wear swim suits on a few of
the meets. most meets were done with all boys nude and girls always
wore swim suits. at junior high boys always were naked, girls wore
suits.
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More by above poster:
Yes, I was naked in front of spectators during swim activities from
ages 10 to 18, in elementary school, in junior high school and during
high school. our audiences were our moms and dads, girl classmates,
aunts and uncles, neighbors, friends of our parents, sometimes our
teachers, and the list goes on.
yes, usually both teams were nude during swim meets. boys were naked,
girls wore swim suits. from what I remember, a coach of the visiting
team would make the decision if we had to wear swim suits or not. but
when our team was asked, we always requested to be nude.
during my time in school, it was a rule for boys to swim naked and
girls to wear swimsuits. but we didn't look at it like a rule. it was
just the way it was, and nobody complained or questioned or mentioned
it. it was the way it was, and as far as I am concerned, it was so much
fun. I wouldn't have it any other way.
as you know, us guys get an erection for any reason and any time, both
would happen many times and out of our control. and I don't know about
others, but when I wore speedos, and because they were so tight, and
when I would get an erection, and when my dick would rub up against the
speedos, the pressure of my dick rubbing on that speedo caused me to
control my erections even less. wearing a speedo always caused me to
realize I could see my own bulge. it was so uncomfortable. I preferred
the freedom of my dick and balls hanging out.
*****
FN; date not recorded
I grew up the middle child with an older and younger brother. We are
each three years apart. My brothers joined the YMCA while I joined the
Campfire Girls. Not once did I ever hear mention of boys swimming naked
there.
When I was 11 years old, I had been taking ballet and one day there was
a recital I wanted to go see, but my mother told me she had to go to
the YMCA because my brothers were competing in an event. The rehearsal
was on the other side of town so she deemed my brothers event more
important. I remember being so mad on the drive to the YMCA, I couldn't
have cared less about what my brothers were doing. My older brother was
in gymnastics and was very good at it. So he joined their dive team. I
can still remember walking into the building and going into a large
room that had an indoor pool and dive platforms. We walked to the
opposite side of the pool to sit on some bleachers and they were just
finishing the swim portion of the competition.
When I looked up as the last swimmers were exiting the pool I was taken
aback. A boy was coming out of the water and he had no swim suit on. I
thought, that poor little boy lost his suit in the water. Then two more
boys got out and also no swim suit. I blurted to my Mom, OMG, they're
naked!! She said, yes honey, they don't wear suits. WHAT??!!! They were
very young, so I thought that might have something to do with it.
Then they announced over a loud speaker that the diving would be
starting. Boys started walking towards the dive platforms and they were
also naked. But these were older boys. Growing up at home with two
brothers, and we all shared the same bathroom, I never once saw them
naked and I made sure they never saw me. This was the first time I had
ever seen a boy naked. Then the unthinkable happened. I noticed my
older brother waiting his turn to go up the ladder. It was funny and
shocking at the same time. There was my brother without a thing on!! I
remember thinking here is my 14 year old brother standing with a bunch
of other boys with nothing on and with all the people in the stands!! I
was also shocked that my parents knew about this and were okay with it.
Again, this never came up in conversation at home.
Well, to my amusement there was a boy there who went to school with me.
His name was James. Once I saw him I couldn't keep my eyes off of him.
I'm pretty sure he knew I was there once my Mom started screaming and
cheering for my brother after his first dive. After that, he always
seemed to stay just hidden behind something. At least until it was his
turn to dive. I had seen that the girls and boys bathrooms were close
to the diving area, so I told my Mother I had to pee. I didn't really
have to go, it was just an excuse to see James up close, along with all
the other boys. I smiled as I got close to him and I was just about to
make some smart ass remark when my brother saw me and yelled at me. I
was so embarrassed.
My parents later told me at home how this was normal, though I still
didn't understand as when I swam I wore a bathing suit. Also, when we
went to the lake we all wore suits. Needless to say, I did find more
times that I was much more interested to go to the YMCA instead of a
dance recital.
James did get me back so to speak years later. When I was a junior in
high school, I had a dance part in the school's musical West Side
Story. I had to go backstage to do a quick change with another girl.
James was a Grip and he and a few others got to see us take off our
leotard and tights. We didn't wear underwear under our tights, so he
saw it all.
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