Found on the Web: Reports of Forced Nudity
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Found on the Web:
Reports of Forced Nudity
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Post 0: Preface –
Provenance and sources
A few years ago there
were active discussions and debates online on the topic of forced nudity,
mostly in regards to nude swimming in schools, nude swimming at the YMCA, nude
physical examinations for school (or military), and a few other select contexts.
Some of these discussions were flame-fests, filled with attacks by skeptics and
doubters who believed that ALL the reports were false, and attacks by others
who (in the editor’s opinion) can reasonably be described as just plain haters.
These discussions
occurred on multiple sites, including topix.com, multiple voy.com boards, the
experience project site, the Usenet newsgroup (now Google Groups) rec.nude, and
other sites. These discussions have since been shut down and many of the
sites/pages deleted or turned off, and the material is no longer online or is
hard to find, even with Google.
The editor, who
chooses the pen name Editor_N, captured (text) excerpts from many of the
discussions back when they were occurring (mostly 2013 and earlier years). In many
cases the original author’s name (user name) and/or source URL were not
captured; in retrospect this was a mistake but it cannot be corrected now. Given
that most of the material is no longer online, obsolete URLs are not very
useful anyway (most URLs were not captured by archive.org).
The editor is
compiling select material from the content captured during the discussions and
adding comments in some cases to provide context – subject to the constraint
that the editor remembers the context [or has the old, often obsolete URL] for
some but not all excerpts. Additional comments are provided by the editor for
many of the posts. It is believed that this usage falls within copyright fair
use or fair dealing. The objective here is to preserve the material and make it
available to others.
Similar content will
be grouped together, to the extent possible herein. The material presented is
alleged to be true by the original posters. Each reader must decide for
themselves how much of the material they believe.
The Editor could post
this on a number of sites. This site was chosen as the optimal site for the
material. Posts will be spaced out over time; they won’t be posted all at once.
I hope you find the
material interesting.
Found on the Web:
Reports of Forced Nudity
Compiled and edited by
Editor_N
Post 1: 1970’s German
TV show forces boys into CFNM with their girl co-stars
Editor_N note: Most
posts in this series will include multiple posts from the archive. This is a
solo post as it is the first, relatively long, and an extreme (?) example of
forced nudity. This was posted on a voy.com forum years ago and is not in the
archive/backup boards. Additional editor notes are after the post.
Editor_N note: updated
25 Dec 2018 to include program details.
Original post:
Sorry it's so long:
In Germany in the 70's
there was a standard low-budget after-school TV show like you would see in the
US with nothing unusual until about the 4th or 5th episode when the younger
boys aged 10 to 12 all stripped naked and went skinny dipping and wrestled with
one another on a raft right in front of the girls - and the cameras!
What was interesting
about it is that it sent mixed signals. On one hand, the show tried to make it
appear funny and somewhat normal for boys to strip down and skinnydip in front
of girls but instead of having the girls ignore them as if it was normal (and
like what you see in Brad's Victorian photographs and paintings), they showed
the girls running up to to watch and laugh and act embarrassed at what they
were seeing when the boys were climbing up in awkward positions on the raft.
The boys acted in the film as if they were having a blast and couldn't care
less about being naked in front of the girls but ater they got out of the
water, the two young actors who were required (by the script) to stand there
and talk to the girls as they walked up kept their hands covering their
privates in obvious embarrassment.
What made that episode
even more striking is that the director had a 10 year old boy from the cast
stand completely naked for some time talking to the fully-dressed girls about
not knowing how to swim and even though the show tried to make it appear that
the boys were totally carefree about being naked, you could easily tell the boy
playing that part was actually embarrassed about it. He kept both hands locked
over his privates the entire time and you could even see him in a background
view at one point jerk around self-consciously to keep a young girl walking by
from seeing what he was trying to hide. The boy was smiling and talking as
required by the script but his body language demonstrated that like most 10
year old boys, he was obviously NOT comfortable having to stand like a naked
toddler in front of his fully-dressed female co-stars.
Yet a few moments
later, several girls offer to teach him how to swim by holding an inner tube in
the water and he has to walk over and step onto the shaky tube and then bend
over and grab the tube with his legs spread wide apart which obviously meant
that what he had been carefully hiding from them behind his hands was now on
extremely intimate view to the entire group of girls who were down on their
knees behind him. The girls then pushed the inner tube out into the water and
it turned him around several times so the young viewers at home could get the
same explicit views of him. I realize the boy was just following the script but
I still remember being totally shocked that a kid who just a moment before was
clearly embarrassed about the scene and covering up in front of his female
co-stars would actually let an acting role compel him to walk over naked and
allow the girls to put him on complete rotating display in a position that
couldn't possibly have been more exposing or humiliating for any naked boy with
his legs spread apart and his genitals now dangling and swinging in front of
their faces as he struggles to hang on while they shove him out to show the
same embarrassing view of him to the camera and a television audience of
hundreds of thousands of other schoolchildren!!
Can you imagine being
10 to 12 years old - incredibly self-conscious years for an adolescent - and
acting in an average TV series with a bunch of other kids that you have become
good friends with over several weeks and you're sitting in your bedroom reading
next week's script and suddenly realize it calls for you to strip naked on the
set and climb up awkwardly on a raft while the girls watch and laugh at your
exposed parts? And as your face is flushing bright red contemplating what
you'll have to do, you realize that not only are your female co-stars that
you've become close friends with on the set also sitting in their bedrooms
reading the script and thinking "ohmigod" that they're going to get
to watch you take your clothes off and run around the set like a naked 3 year
old but your sisters and every girl you go to school with that has heard you
brag about being in a TV series is also going to enjoy watching you have to get
naked and show everyone your little weenie in order to keep your part in the
show!
Of course we all know
that's exactly the reason the director did it. All the young girls at home who
had become attracted to one of the boys in the series over the first several
weeks of the show were going to love seeing him take his clothes off and run
around naked and viewership would soar because nudity always sells.
I mean the director
must have been thinking, "hey I know - not only will I make the boys get
naked but all the 7 to 10 year old girls who watch the show love that cute 10
year old boy so I'll have the girls on the show put him on all fours like a 4-H
farm animal and turn him around for the camera with his legs spread wide so
they can show him off with his penis dangling and swinging for the little girls
at home!"
I'm also certain that
that director back in the 1970's requiring those 10 to 12 year old boys to run
around naked in front of their female co-stars - which my German friends said
boys that age there would never do in real life - was the very definition of
exploitation.
I can't even imagine
spending weeks working closely on a project with a bunch of kids at school and
the teacher walking in one day and telling us boys that the project now
requires us to strip naked and wrestle with one another while the girls stand
around laughing at us - and, oh yeah, he's going to film it so the rest of the
school can watch! LOL, I'm sure the 10-12 year old girls I went to school with
would have been thinking "hell yeah!" at getting to see us boys in
the class have to strip down and wrestle on the floor like a bunch of naked
toddlers with our little penises flopping because I would have felt the same
way if it had been them. But for me it would have been "no way in
hell!" and it absolutely stuns me that instead of saying that, those
German middle-school boys actually did it. All I can think is that some people
including kids want to be actors so badly that their acting desire overcomes
all other emotions including pride, shame and embarrassment! Nothing else
explains why that embarrassed boy would drop his hands and go through with what
he did..
Editor_N comments:
#1: Swimming nude was
common in Germany in the 1970’s, so perhaps it was not as anomalous as the
writer above believes?
#2: The first
mainstream, wide distribution movie that featured men wrestling naked was back
in the 1970’s. One wonders if that inspired the German TV Director to have the
boys wrestle nude?
#3: If a reader saw
the program mentioned and can corroborate the report [hopefully including
program name and year of broadcast], please send an email to Editor_N via
Cassie. If corroborated, this post will be updated to add details on the TV
program.
UPDATE re: #3:
As of 25 Dec 2018, 2
readers have supplied the name/details of the TV show: (many thanks to the
readers who corroborated this!)
The TV program is:
Krempoli (Original Sub-title: Ein Platz für wilde Kinder (English: a place for
wild children)) from 1975. The described scene is in episode 4 "Das
Baumhaus" (the treehouse).
As-of 25 Dec 2018, the
episode is on youtube. To find it, search for: KREMPOLI Das Baumhaus. Videos on
youtube can be deleted, accounts deleted, so it is available today but might
not be available in the future.
Found on the Web:
Reports of Forced Nudity
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Editor_N
Post 2: Junior high
school boys get physical exams - totally nude - while their clothed girl
classmates watch
Editor_N comments: Junior
Highs are/were grades 7-9 in the US; students in the age group 13-15 years
(puberty years). Nowadays in the US Middle Schools are supplanting junior
highs.
Post #1 – from a
voy.com board. (Multiple posts from a thread)
Editor_N comments: this
post contains (below) a comment re: using boys as “life models”. In one of the
now-deleted topix.com discussion threads, there were links to old education
books from 1900-1930 discussing this practice. Unfortunately I did not capture
those URLs; however I did review some of the subject books back when the thread
existed/was active. The old books said that the life models should be boys from
the same classes as the girls. There were photos in some of the old books of
naked children doing life modeling. (The photos were non-sexual, of course.)
Author:
Chris
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Date Posted: Sunday,
December 26, 2010, 06:23: pm
When I was 13 we had
physicals at our school.It was decided that the boys and girls would have their
physicals on different days.We boys had ours first.The boys were taken into the
gymnasium where the physicals were going to be done.To our surprise, the
bleachers were full of girls.The teacher told the boys that the girls were
there because that was where they had their health class,and since the gym was
the only place big enough to examine lots of boys simultaneously, they decided
they would just do the boys examinations and girls health class at the same
time.We were then told to strip down.I stripped down to my underwear as did all
other boys,but we were told we have to strip naked.The boys were all reluctant,
but we were told if we didn't we'd be in big trouble, so we stripped naked.e
all stood naked on as each boy was examined.When the genital exams started, the
teacher directed the girls to it and explained to them why the doctor was
grabbing our testicles and asking us to cough.
The teacher then
called out to about 8 boys ,including myself,and told them to go to where she
was.She had me and the other boys stand in front of the girls and told the
girls to notice how boys penises vary in size and even shape.Such attention to
our genitals caused me an the other boys to become erect.When we got erect,we
quickly covered ourselves, but the teacher scolded us and told us not to, so
the we stopped.The teacher called attention to our erections and explained to
the girls how and why it happens.She told the girls to notice how the erect
penises vary in size and shape,and how some point directly up, straight out,
how some curve, etc...She pointed out that some of the boys were developed
enough to produce sperm while other were not.Most of the boys were circumcised,
but a few were not.The teacher pointed out the difference for the girls, and
then told them to notice that one of the boys(who's name was Gregory) had long
enough foreskin that even fully erect, his glans was fully covered.The teacher
went up to Gregory to show the girls that under the foreskin, Gregory looked
the same as all other boys.She pulled back his foreskin,and this action caused
Gregory to ejaculate.When this happened, the teacher once again explained to
the girls and mentioned to them about orgasms.
She told the girls
about masturbation and that boys do this many way, but the main way was to gab
his penis and pump.She told me to demonstrate what she was talking about. I
didn't really want to, but I had an overwhelming need to relive myself because
my penis felt like it was going to explode,so I just did it.After I ejaculated,
she smiled and told the other boys that she could tell they needed to relieve
themselves.She told the boys that it's ok for them to do it right there and not
to feel embarrassed.So the boys relieved themselves.The teacher then thanked us
for being good sports and told us we could go leave.After we left, I learned
that each new class of girls in the gym had the same demonstration that the
other girls had, but with each new group of boys that went in for physicals.
The next day, the girls had their physicals, but we boys were kept in our
classrooms the whole day.We weren't allowed out of our class the whole day, not
even for lunch.We did have lunch, but we ate in class, and the food was brought
to us, instead of us going to get it.When we went to the bathroom, we were
watched very carefully to make sure we went directly to bathroom and came
directly back.
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[> Subject: Re:
Physical at school
Author:
brendan
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Date Posted: Sunday,
December 26, 2010, 08:20: pm
I had an experience
close to that when I was 12 but in my case it wasn't for a school physical.I
was with my mother one day during a parent teacher meeting.The principle wanted
to see my mother so I had to sit there bored while he talked with her.I don't remember
what was said because i wasn't paying attention,but I do remember my mother
signing a paper which turned out to be a consent form to allow me to be put on
display.
A few weeks later at
school i was called out of the class and was met by the principle.he asked me
if I remembered a few weeks before, which I didn't,so he explained to me that
my mother gave consent for me to be used as a teaching tool.
I didn't like it one
bit, but I had no choice.I was given a robe and told to go to the bathroom and come
out wearing nothing but the robe.So i changed into the robe, and when i came
out was led into a classroom full of girls.The teacher told me to take off the
robe.When I did some girls giggled but the teacher told them to hush.I was very
nervous and this caused me to have an erection.
The teacher started
talking, but I didn't hear one word because I was in a daze.It was very
surreal.I couldn't believe I was standing in a room full of girls completely
naked with an erection.I was taken out of my daze when the teacher told me to
demonstrate what masturbation is.
I hadn't heard the
word so i didn't know what she meant.I also hadn't masturbated before so when
she told me what I'm supposed to do i didn't understand why.I started to do
what she asked and couldn't believe how god it felt.I suddenly got this intense
feeling and started having my first orgasm.I let out a little yelp as it
happened.I hadn't started to produce sperm yet so it was a dry orgasm.I was
called every day for a week to be used a s a subject in the girls class.
[> [> Subject:
Re: Physical at school
Author:
Lenora
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Date Posted: Sunday,
December 26, 2010, 08:26: pm
brendan, i remember
something like that when i was in school.they brought in one of my male
classmates and used him to teach us about boys bodies.i got to see him get an
erection and he also masturbated in front of us.it was the first time i had
seen a boy ejaculate.i was 13 at the time and so was he.
[> [> Subject:
Re: Physical at school
Author:
Chris
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Date Posted: Sunday,
December 26, 2010, 08:31: pm
When and where did
this happen brendan? For me this occurred 1964 in norfolk, virgina.
[> [> [>
Subject: Re: Physical at school
Author:
brendan
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Date Posted: Sunday,
December 26, 2010, 08:33: pm
This happened in 1972
in Akron Ohio
[> [> Subject:
Re: Physical at school
Author:
Liz
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Date Posted: Sunday,
January 02, 2011, 01:11: pm
Double standard is
great isn't it.
One way street. Sure,
girls should have live male models in health class, but guys having live female
models in health class? Pfft. That's lunacy.
[> Subject: This
was very common
Author:
Franklin
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Date Posted: Sunday,
December 26, 2010, 08:40: pm
This occurred more
often than anyone thinks.There's was an article in an old education manual
talking about how health classes for girls should include a real life male
model.The article stated that the male model should be a fellow schoolmate,as
this would make the girls feel more comfortable as opposed to some strange
kid.It also stated the boys would also be more comfortable because they already
know the girls, and so it would be a safe situation.Although this didn't occur
at all schools, it occurred at many.This article didn't say that it was
obligatory, but simply suggested it.Some schools chose to utilize boys in girls
health class, others chose not to.
Author:
Judy
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Date Posted: Sunday,
January 02, 2011, 09:20: pm
From the erotic view
point good story is it true or perhaps embellished truth? If you enjoyed it
great if not just giggle an move on to the next post.
Several girls hanging
out watching have heard first hand accounts that were confirmed as true by
asking questions that only a person truly present would know and the guys
confirmed the facts as correct.I was never that lucky to be one of them.
Have viewed old health
text books that did show black & white images of boys and girls undressed
standing in front of a black board. Was any students in the room at the time of
just an empty classroom used for the photo shoot,I do not know can only report what
I see.
Post #2: a (several
weeks) later new thread on the same board, a comment on the main post above.
Claims that junior
high school girls for "health class" (really girls's PE?) were
observing the boys getting physicals, and the boys were nude. It is unclear how
much of the message is accurate.
Parts of the post seem
plausible. Advocates of nude male swimming claimed that girls benefited from
learning about male bodies, as the girls would eventually be mothers with sons.
So having girls observe physicals for health education fits into that.
As a male who lived
through that era (but never swam nude), I recall that we were treated very
badly and PE teachers seemed to be well, the word subhuman comes to mind. In
those days, men and boys allegedly did not have any modesty concerns, that was
the province of girls and "sissy" boys so nudity was not an issue.
I was in junior high
at the time mentioned and my PE teacher got mad at us (boys) for some reason or
other and threatened to make us exercise outside, nude - where the girls could
see us. He did not follow through on the threat, but the fact that he made it
says something about the times and the low status of boys then.
So it is possible that
forced group nudity of the boys with girls as observers might happen, to
humiliate and demean the boys and educate the girls. This brutish behavior
would fit into the pattern of the subhuman PE teachers of the times.
So the basic scenario
in the post - nude junior high boys on display for clothed junior high girls -
is plausible, even the female teacher calling boys over to do show and tell
about their penises for the girls. But where the post crosses into a gray zone
is the claims that 1 boy ejaculated when touched, and that the boys openly
masturbated for the crowd of girls.
Back in those days
masturbation was seen as immoral. In junior high, I was given a sex ed booklet
that claimed that you could catch venereal disease by masturbation (talk about
a stupid claim). Assuming these were junior high PE classes, at a time when
daily PE was mandatory for buys and girls, then the scenario described is that
a group of boys, under direction from the girls health/PE teacher, masturbated
in front of maybe 1/6 of all the girls in school, while 1/6 of the boys in
school were stark naked and on display behind them. The forced nudity –
possible and even plausible, but forced public masturbation is less likely.
Post #3: a similar
report
Editor_N note: also
from a now-deleted board on voy.com, posted months after post #1 above. Similar
to #1 in some respects.
Yeah, I learned next
year(first year of junior high, when school physicals started)that adults cared
much more about female modesty than male modesty. The boys physicals and the
girls physicals were done on the same day. The line for the room the girls
physicals took place went through the room where the boys physicals took place.
Not to mention that the boys were examined fully nude, the girls were almost
fully clothed the whole exam, the only time the genitals were examined is if a
parent had a complaint. The boys had a hernia check, their penis was felt by
the (female) doctor, and if uncircumcised, the foreskin was pulled back. So the
all the girls got free shows that day.
Post #4: report from a
high-school age girl
Editor_N note: this
may come from antimisandrty.com, a site that has shut down.
i'm a 16 year old
girl, a few months ago they were doing medicals on boys who were a little older
than me.
i was told by the head
to take some papers over to the boys locker rooms and hand them to the nurse
there.
when i got there the
door was closed, i knocked but got no answer from inside, i opened it slightly
and called out Hello
a man inside looked
and saw me and asked what i wanted i showed him the papers, he called me inside
to where they were.to my surprise [excitement as well] there were about 10 to
15 boys standing in a line without anything on,all of them had there hand at
their sides, i've never seen a boys willy before besides in a magazine, but
this was real, some were small others had Big ones. i was about 4 feet away
from them, when i handed the papers over to the lady, some thing i wont forget.
if i were to have a
medical there at that time i wouldn't mind stripping naked with those boys and
lining up as well. i'm sure quite a few girls would have joined it as well.
do they ever do these
medicals at schools where the whole class boys and girls go in together?
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